What Do Actual Natives Think of Yeagley (Especially Comanches)?
In only four years, Yeagley has managed to make himself the most despised person anywhere in Indian Country. Some of the more charitable Native opinions on him are that he is too much of a clown to worry much about, or simply crazy.
My earlier estimate was that Yeagley had perhaps half a dozen actual Natives agreeing with him out of an American Indian population of seven million, perhaps literally one out of a million Indians on his side. I was too generous. So far I have only been able to find a grand total of one Native (plus one other who may possibly be Native) who agree with Yeagley's far right politics and belief in white supremacy.
1. Betty Ann Gross-A Lakota woman initially drawn to Yeagley by their mutual support for "Indian" sports mascots. Gross's current main motive for her fervent support for Yeagley is their mutual racist hatred and fear of Blacks. By her own account, her racism was triggered by one of her family marrying a Black person.
2. Barbara Lindsay, of the anti-Indian and white supremacist group One Nation, claims part Cherokee ancestry. Like Yeagley, white supremacists find Lindsay's CLAIM of Native ancestry useful in misleading the naive. Also like Yeagley, Lindsay is herself a strong proponent of white supremacy regardless of her alleged ancestry. Whether she is actually Cherokee is not known. She is not enrolled with any of the three recognized Cherokee bands. Lindsay was kicked out of a Cherokee heritage group and denounced by them as a traitor to Cherokee people once they discovered her part in One Nation.
What do actual Comanches think of Yeagley and his white supremacy views?
"David 'Pole-dances-for-white-guys' Yeagley...he's as far from being Comanche as Tonto was being a real representation of Indians."
"Mr. 'Bad Eagle,' the original hang-around-the-fort, anti-sovereignty supporting, pro-mascot uncle tomahawk himself. (and those are the NICE things I've said about him in the past.) He never grew up anywhere near our community...I have no love for that traitor."
Gerald Tieyah, self-described Comanche nationalist
"I challenge his connection to the Comanche culture and Comanche people."
"I don't like Yeagles anymore than anyone else...I don't care what his sexual orientation is. It is his speaking engagements, writings and cozying up to anti-ndn groups that should remain the focus of concern."
Juanita Pahdopony, Comanche educator, artist, activist, and member of Comanche tribal government
Sent to me from another member of the Comanche tribal government:
"I was researching Comanche stuff on the web, found his website and began to read. I couldn't believe it. I was extremely angry so I met with the Comanche Business Committee during a monthly meeting behind closed doors. I gave them information, copies, the works about what he was saying and doing on his website."
"No one at the tribe takes him seriously. My whole point to the CBC was the fact he was speaking for Comanches in general. I told them he doesn't speak for me or my family. Only our elected tribal leaders can speak for us, which he is not."
"He's tried to get on with the Comanche Nation Constitution Revision Commission and was turned down. He's tried to get on at the Comanche Nation College and speak about his support of mascots, he was turned down. "
"He's tried to get 'in' at the tribe. Everyone thinks he's pohtsah (nuts)."
"A nephew told me David Yeagley embarrasses the family. They all think he's nuts. All he knows how to do is beg for money. He's made his website a non-profit and asks for donations because he is too lazy and disreputable to get a real job."
"He has crossed the sacred line."
Fron another:
“I met Sad Eagle several times after he approached me, kind of scary walking up to an elder, isn't it? The reason I avoided eye contact was not for some Comanche humility, I simply didn't want to look at you, that's all. Let me see if I can remember back to the Constitution Committee's forming, as I remember you had quite a burr under your saddle to get onto that committee; so, how’d that work out for you? I seem to remember you bringing your "brand" of superficial patriotism to the tribal council meeting once; how’d that work out for you? And, if memory serves, you also clamored to join the ranks of the educators at CNC; and, how’d that work out for you? I almost wish you would apply for [Ward] Churchill's job, and get far away from here. We don't banish people, but you have come closer than anyone I've ever avoided. Every time I see that trashy old dusty gray car your mother left you wandering lost around Lawton, I feel like recommending you for that Colorado professorship myself. With my credentials behind you, maybe you’d stand half a chance of getting it. But the educator in me would never inflict that upon any student. The thought of you 'grading' them.”
“He's been turned down by everything and everyone at the Comanche tribe. Wow, who would have thought someone so educated and 'revered' in 'conservative' 'non-Native' circles would not be considered. I guess he has ZERO power in the tribe even though he capitalizes on the connection ad nauseam.”
Comanacha
Natives from other tribes join in the angry criticism:
“He is a pathetic loser and leech….Guy is a piece of ****. And then he insults the ancestors of the Caribbean. If he would have said that to my grand parents or any Guajiro or Jibaro in the good old days, he would be sure to find a machete shoved far up his ***. Then he most likely probably would be tasting metal...I mean, what, he thinks he is invoking the spirits? He is as red as an apple, yellow as a twinkie, brown as a potato.”
DacaTaino
"That hateful man."
Bee Neidlinger, Munsee traditionalist, founder of Yahoo group Ancient Native Heritage
"Indian Country's favorite Michael Jackson look alike....Thank god we have Yeagley! Or else Indians wouldn't know what their identity is...You can bet he left all those white ladies disappointed that night [speaking before a meeting of anti-Indian groups.] Yet another characteristic he shares with Michael Jackson!"
"No one ever accused Dr. David Yeagley of being in touch with Indian Country."
In the Hoop
"An Indian liberal for David's purposes is someone who supports, well, being Indian... He seems to be against anyone more famous or liked than him. Of course that covers just about everyone, so he is fond of attacking every respectable Indian leader and policy of self-determination.
Yeagley seems to hate Indianness...More than anything else he angers many Native Americans with these hateful tomes against Indian people...We understand why he hates Indians: He's not one."
Cinda Hughes, Kiowa activist and activist for the disabled
"The darling of the right wingnuts...Nearly a lifer of a student...There's nothing in his writing to suggest any knowledge of tribal ways and protocols or involvement with actual Indian people... The more he publishes, the more he reveals his ignorance about Indian country...He never misses a chance to call Indian people names...[He] resembles the white men who used to wear feathers and tan pancake make-up for old cowboy-and-Indian movies...He shrieks about being a warrior and a patriot, but has never faced combat or donned a uniform. The closest he's been to war was a visit in 2001 to the Museum of the U.S. Army 45th Infantry Division."
Suzan Harjo, Cheyenne author and activist
"Why is Mr. Yeagley a hypocrite? Because he ‘resents’ lies, although he champions them if carried out by leaders he favors."
"Mr. Yeagley’s efforts are nothing but a game of contextual pile-on: to see how much added denigration can be piled onto the original slander to increase its rank stench."
"Mr. Yeagley’s pseudo-arguments are mostly racial and misogynist attacks that are cloaked as advice, ‘attack-advice,’ that serve only to denigrate people of color and women. Mr. Yeagley appears to be following the standard ‘talking points’ coming from the right-wing warmongers and war profiteers, without any serious examination."
"What he does appears to directly coincide with those whom he wishes to please in order to keep his fake warrior facade alive."
Brent Michael Davids, Mohican composer and activist
"White people stand up. Yeagley's suggested position for Indians is kissing white behinds. How much more proof do you need that this guy is a freaking traitor and a racist?"
Jake Al Reum, Assiniboine/Dakota/Ojibwe activist
"Is it better to completely ignore these nuts or keep bashing them? How many articles have been written about Yeagley's overnight wannabe antics? Yeagley is like a pest you can't get rid of... Him and that white woman with an adam's apple do not speak for American Indians that's for sure!"
Keenmah
The list of Natives opposed to Yeagley could go on and on since it includes literally every Indian who ever heard of him outside of Gross (and possibly Lindsay.)
The most striking lack of support for Yeagley comes from his own alleged family. Not even his own supposed brothers or sister by blood come forward to defend him. They have not done this even to point out he is not lying about being related to them or disprove what is widely known, that he was adopted.
My earlier estimate was that Yeagley had perhaps half a dozen actual Natives agreeing with him out of an American Indian population of seven million, perhaps literally one out of a million Indians on his side. I was too generous. So far I have only been able to find a grand total of one Native (plus one other who may possibly be Native) who agree with Yeagley's far right politics and belief in white supremacy.
1. Betty Ann Gross-A Lakota woman initially drawn to Yeagley by their mutual support for "Indian" sports mascots. Gross's current main motive for her fervent support for Yeagley is their mutual racist hatred and fear of Blacks. By her own account, her racism was triggered by one of her family marrying a Black person.
2. Barbara Lindsay, of the anti-Indian and white supremacist group One Nation, claims part Cherokee ancestry. Like Yeagley, white supremacists find Lindsay's CLAIM of Native ancestry useful in misleading the naive. Also like Yeagley, Lindsay is herself a strong proponent of white supremacy regardless of her alleged ancestry. Whether she is actually Cherokee is not known. She is not enrolled with any of the three recognized Cherokee bands. Lindsay was kicked out of a Cherokee heritage group and denounced by them as a traitor to Cherokee people once they discovered her part in One Nation.
What do actual Comanches think of Yeagley and his white supremacy views?
"David 'Pole-dances-for-white-guys' Yeagley...he's as far from being Comanche as Tonto was being a real representation of Indians."
"Mr. 'Bad Eagle,' the original hang-around-the-fort, anti-sovereignty supporting, pro-mascot uncle tomahawk himself. (and those are the NICE things I've said about him in the past.) He never grew up anywhere near our community...I have no love for that traitor."
Gerald Tieyah, self-described Comanche nationalist
"I challenge his connection to the Comanche culture and Comanche people."
"I don't like Yeagles anymore than anyone else...I don't care what his sexual orientation is. It is his speaking engagements, writings and cozying up to anti-ndn groups that should remain the focus of concern."
Juanita Pahdopony, Comanche educator, artist, activist, and member of Comanche tribal government
Sent to me from another member of the Comanche tribal government:
"I was researching Comanche stuff on the web, found his website and began to read. I couldn't believe it. I was extremely angry so I met with the Comanche Business Committee during a monthly meeting behind closed doors. I gave them information, copies, the works about what he was saying and doing on his website."
"No one at the tribe takes him seriously. My whole point to the CBC was the fact he was speaking for Comanches in general. I told them he doesn't speak for me or my family. Only our elected tribal leaders can speak for us, which he is not."
"He's tried to get on with the Comanche Nation Constitution Revision Commission and was turned down. He's tried to get on at the Comanche Nation College and speak about his support of mascots, he was turned down. "
"He's tried to get 'in' at the tribe. Everyone thinks he's pohtsah (nuts)."
"A nephew told me David Yeagley embarrasses the family. They all think he's nuts. All he knows how to do is beg for money. He's made his website a non-profit and asks for donations because he is too lazy and disreputable to get a real job."
"He has crossed the sacred line."
Fron another:
“I met Sad Eagle several times after he approached me, kind of scary walking up to an elder, isn't it? The reason I avoided eye contact was not for some Comanche humility, I simply didn't want to look at you, that's all. Let me see if I can remember back to the Constitution Committee's forming, as I remember you had quite a burr under your saddle to get onto that committee; so, how’d that work out for you? I seem to remember you bringing your "brand" of superficial patriotism to the tribal council meeting once; how’d that work out for you? And, if memory serves, you also clamored to join the ranks of the educators at CNC; and, how’d that work out for you? I almost wish you would apply for [Ward] Churchill's job, and get far away from here. We don't banish people, but you have come closer than anyone I've ever avoided. Every time I see that trashy old dusty gray car your mother left you wandering lost around Lawton, I feel like recommending you for that Colorado professorship myself. With my credentials behind you, maybe you’d stand half a chance of getting it. But the educator in me would never inflict that upon any student. The thought of you 'grading' them.”
“He's been turned down by everything and everyone at the Comanche tribe. Wow, who would have thought someone so educated and 'revered' in 'conservative' 'non-Native' circles would not be considered. I guess he has ZERO power in the tribe even though he capitalizes on the connection ad nauseam.”
Comanacha
Natives from other tribes join in the angry criticism:
“He is a pathetic loser and leech….Guy is a piece of ****. And then he insults the ancestors of the Caribbean. If he would have said that to my grand parents or any Guajiro or Jibaro in the good old days, he would be sure to find a machete shoved far up his ***. Then he most likely probably would be tasting metal...I mean, what, he thinks he is invoking the spirits? He is as red as an apple, yellow as a twinkie, brown as a potato.”
DacaTaino
"That hateful man."
Bee Neidlinger, Munsee traditionalist, founder of Yahoo group Ancient Native Heritage
"Indian Country's favorite Michael Jackson look alike....Thank god we have Yeagley! Or else Indians wouldn't know what their identity is...You can bet he left all those white ladies disappointed that night [speaking before a meeting of anti-Indian groups.] Yet another characteristic he shares with Michael Jackson!"
"No one ever accused Dr. David Yeagley of being in touch with Indian Country."
In the Hoop
"An Indian liberal for David's purposes is someone who supports, well, being Indian... He seems to be against anyone more famous or liked than him. Of course that covers just about everyone, so he is fond of attacking every respectable Indian leader and policy of self-determination.
Yeagley seems to hate Indianness...More than anything else he angers many Native Americans with these hateful tomes against Indian people...We understand why he hates Indians: He's not one."
Cinda Hughes, Kiowa activist and activist for the disabled
"The darling of the right wingnuts...Nearly a lifer of a student...There's nothing in his writing to suggest any knowledge of tribal ways and protocols or involvement with actual Indian people... The more he publishes, the more he reveals his ignorance about Indian country...He never misses a chance to call Indian people names...[He] resembles the white men who used to wear feathers and tan pancake make-up for old cowboy-and-Indian movies...He shrieks about being a warrior and a patriot, but has never faced combat or donned a uniform. The closest he's been to war was a visit in 2001 to the Museum of the U.S. Army 45th Infantry Division."
Suzan Harjo, Cheyenne author and activist
"Why is Mr. Yeagley a hypocrite? Because he ‘resents’ lies, although he champions them if carried out by leaders he favors."
"Mr. Yeagley’s efforts are nothing but a game of contextual pile-on: to see how much added denigration can be piled onto the original slander to increase its rank stench."
"Mr. Yeagley’s pseudo-arguments are mostly racial and misogynist attacks that are cloaked as advice, ‘attack-advice,’ that serve only to denigrate people of color and women. Mr. Yeagley appears to be following the standard ‘talking points’ coming from the right-wing warmongers and war profiteers, without any serious examination."
"What he does appears to directly coincide with those whom he wishes to please in order to keep his fake warrior facade alive."
Brent Michael Davids, Mohican composer and activist
"White people stand up. Yeagley's suggested position for Indians is kissing white behinds. How much more proof do you need that this guy is a freaking traitor and a racist?"
Jake Al Reum, Assiniboine/Dakota/Ojibwe activist
"Is it better to completely ignore these nuts or keep bashing them? How many articles have been written about Yeagley's overnight wannabe antics? Yeagley is like a pest you can't get rid of... Him and that white woman with an adam's apple do not speak for American Indians that's for sure!"
Keenmah
The list of Natives opposed to Yeagley could go on and on since it includes literally every Indian who ever heard of him outside of Gross (and possibly Lindsay.)
The most striking lack of support for Yeagley comes from his own alleged family. Not even his own supposed brothers or sister by blood come forward to defend him. They have not done this even to point out he is not lying about being related to them or disprove what is widely known, that he was adopted.
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